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IIS Live Streaming playback in jwplayer


I'm trying to figure out how to playback an IIS live stream with jwplayer.

Encoding is done with expression encoder in h264 (ios compatible) to an IIS live smooth streaming publishing point (not using multiple bandwidth streams though, so access to the one stream is just fine).

I can playback on IOS devices following the info at
http://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/854/apple-http-live-streaming-with-iis-media-services

So I thought playback in jwplayer should also work, it just needs to correct URL (the one for apple device html5 playback doesn't work).

Has anyone figured out what to add to the livestream.isml url for jwplayer?

Thanks!

25 Community Answers

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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What is isml ?

JW Player

User  
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IIS live stream (http, h264/aac)

basically url.isml/manifest fetches a "playlist" of chunks of the livestream.

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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Hmm. I am not sure if the player supports this. Do you have an example of where you tried to run this with the JW Player?

JW Player

User  
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any news about this as i'm also interested in a solution.
Hopefully there is a way to setup this using JW Player.

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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Do you have a sample streamer that we can test out?

JW Player

User  
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Hello Ethan,
thanks for your feedback...

Yes, i have a test environemnt there iis7 on windows2008 is installed. Also Microsoft Expression Encoder Pro is active.
At the moment live smooth streaming is working with the SmoothStreamingPlayer.html. But it is inside our company and not visible on the internet.

Maybe an installation of JW Player for Silverlight can be used?

Final we would like to call a window of JW Player with live smooth streaming of a mp4 file. Hopefully this can be managed easy.

At the moment we use it like:
http://../autostart_f4v.asp?w=640&h=360&fn=/videoname.f4v
We also use a licensed version of JW player version 5.4.1530 already.

Maybe we can email each other? Waiting for your info...

Best Regards,
BDI

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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Sure, email us – http://www.longtailvideo.com/custom-sales/contact-us/

JW Player

User  
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Hi Ethan,
i sent you an email...

Best regards,
BDI

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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Ok, thanks!

JW Player

User  
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Hi Ethan,

Is there any update on a solution to handle this kind of streams ?

Thanks,
Yan

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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There is not, I replied to his email but I have not heard back yet…

JW Player

User  
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Ok, thank you Ethan.

Silverlight is not really the moving format, but sometime it could be useful...

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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Np

JW Player

User  
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Any update on ISML streaming files being handled by JW Player? Thank you!

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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ISML, do you have a sample?

JW Player

User  
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This should be a publicly available IIS live smooth stream:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10363221/example-public-live-stream-for-iis-smooth-streaming

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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We don’t support streams like these, sorry.

JW Player

User  
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Thanks for checking. In that case, what we are trying to do is deliver live streaming using MS Streaming Services to desktop, Apple, Android. MS Media Services ("publishing point") allow for dual output: to IIS and essentially HLS compliant streams. So, we are able to deliver today to desktop and Apple. Since Live Smooth Streams do not works with JW, the specific question that comes up is whether we would be able to deliver these HLS streams (m3u8) produced by MS Media Services to play on Android devices if we implemented the JW player via a Drupal site we are trying to perform this for.

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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Np.

You would have to use HLS, then.

JW Player

User  
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So, HLS live streams should work for all versions of Android? Or only certain ones?

Also, which versions of JW player would be able to deliver this - I wanted to test on the free version before upgrading but don't know if this will deliver what was needed?

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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Well, HLS on Android is really not supported by Google, actually.

You need jW6 premium for HLS.

JW Player

User  
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Sorry for my confusion - not clean whether JW provides for any manner of live playback of live streams for Android - I am trying to figure out whether I can cross platform stream desktop, Apple, Android. Android is the prime sticking point, as it doesn't seem to want to often handle the same schemes as Apple and is not consistent across releases.

I assume Android can playback HLS for 3.x and 4.0, maybe Flash for 2.x, and modified HLS (h.263 and Web M) if trying on 4.1... I don't know if there is some way that JW can be used to go after streams for both the desktop and Apple (which occurs natively out of MS Media Services) and also add in Android playback... I don't know if the player can handle the conversion to handle what Android natively does not do. I might have to fall back on a different server side solution that streams in multiple formats.

Thank you - I have a few projects for which this has become a sticking point.

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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We do support HLS, but Android seems to barely support it in 2, somewhat in 3, and in 4.0 is works, but in 4.1 it doesn’t…

JW Player

User  
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Is there another format that would be able to fill in for live streaming of content for 4.1 that is supported by JW?

Ethan Feldman

JW Player Support Agent  
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I’m afraid not really, this is really on Google’s end to support…

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